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the law. in fact, they had to defy the very authority of the government that was over them and declare that it no longer had the moral authority to govern. now, consider this statement. i quote, "one has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws." i would agree with st. augustine that an unjust law is no law at all. now, what is the difference between the two? how does one determine whether a law is just or unjust? a just law is a manmade code that squares with the moral law or the law of god. an unjust law is a code that is out of harmony with the moral law. i submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust is in reality expressing the highest respect for law. if today i lived in a communist country where certain principles dear to the christian faith are suppressed, i would openly advocate disobeying that country's anti-religious laws." that sounds like a statement from some far right wing christian tea party type, doesn't it? i'm sure that liberals who live to dispar
acts of violence. the afternoon's panel will have a debate about a proposed law that would reduce felony drug possession crimes to a misdemeanor. this is what 13 states have done. we not only bring these issues to the forefront, but have the opportunity to participate -- and we have cards that you could fill out and questions. this promises to be a year of reform and change like we have never seen, and we now see prisoner reentry programs being implemented. we're still spending too much money and resources and not enough on rehabilitation and reentry. this november, the voters will decide on limiting the three strikes law. issues and measures long overdue. it is clear there is much more that needs to be done. according to a study that was published this month -- since 1989, 2000 people have been wrongfully incarcerated and they served collectively, 10,000 years. an average of 11 years person. i would like to thank the people who made this summit possible. memoranda -- amy devon -- many volunteers and all of our speakers and panelists. i would like to thank the co- sponsors, and th
. unless it is included in the immigration reform bill, it will not become law. that is why i think there is some declining optimism from the white house and democrats that this is going to get past. because, as john boehner reiterated to his colleagues yesterday, he is not going to bring any ill to the floor unless it has a majority of republicans supporting it. right now the majority of the republicans don't appear to support a path to citizenship. host: alexander bolton's colleagues at the hill have this deadline. among of gloom deepens democrats over immigration reforms prospect." democrats make it clear that if the path to citizenship is not included, there will be no bill. they say that would be a political disaster for republicans. they point to the 2012 presidential election where mr. romney did terribly with hispanic voters, worse than john mccain and george w. bush. withboehner seems to agree that political assessment. he told his colleagues yesterday, he assured them he will not bring anything to the floor and pass it was only and majority -- minority of republicans. he s
's law in honor of her, she had been in and around sacramento for a long time. so the legislation in and of itself, i don't think it's going to work miracles, but it is definitely on people's radar now and i think you hear it in the media more and more. the reason we have a suicide barrier and the reason we are having legislation like this is because of the parents and the families because they are the ones that hurt the most and i would imagine part of the therapeutic thing, you've got to tell this story and telling it in the right place and the right time can be very effective. so seth's law does require that if you witness an act of bullying, that you must report it. >> is that for anybody? >> anyone, but particularly teachers. there is a -- sometimes we see things that aren't very pleasant and if you've ever taken it to muni, you know what i mean. your tendency is to turn away. i heard the word faggot on the play ground when i taught. the teachers were intimidated, they didn't want to be seen to have any empathy because that might reflect on them. it's crazy but that's p
partnership in south florida with local law enforcement who had gone into schools talking about bullying, including cyber bullying and giving people concrete examples of things of situations they saw, it was remarkable. and that is why we will continue to do that work. so i hope today as we move forward you will understand that we are in this together with you at the department of justice. this is an all hands on deck enterprise. there is so much to do. i hope at the end of this day we will indeed all follow the lead of that student, walk out and say what are one or two things i'm going to do differently and better? how are we going to improve this situation? i hope if you take one and only one thing from melinda and my and ruslyn's remarks today, if you have an idea, please bring them to us. we want to learn from you. we are in this together and i want to say thank you because the most important thing we have is a recognition that you understand that this is indeed a national issue for us to deal with. i'm looking forward to the rest of the day, i appreciate your presence and i
at the department will when it comes to enforcing immigration laws will become entangled in politics over legislation that has broad bipartisan support. >> reporter: yesterday, he didn't do much to convince republicans that immigration reforms will be fully enforced. >> it is propos ter us to suggest delay in implementation of provision of law is anything unusual. >> reporter: senator john mccain was more forceful. >> new or old secretary of homeland security will not have that kind of latitude, if you believe, your opposition to this law is that the government will not enforce that law, then we shouldn't pass any laws. >> reporter: instead of one massive immigration plan which the senate passed, the house is working on a series of bills to deal with border security, interior enforcements, guest workers, high tech psychiatrist. cantor and bob goodlatte are looking on an act for the children of illegals. goodlatte signals they could get a path to citizenship. >> i and other members are open minded to the idea they should have a way to come out of the shadows, to be able to work, to have th
the law. so we would argue to oppose and unless the current draft is amended. >> next speaker, please? >> welcome. >> thank you. >> good evening, commissioners, president, adams. i'm leslie ma loi, representing the small business network this evening as their president, we represent more than 13 organizations, 10,000 businesses and tens of thousands of employees. and we truly feel that this ordinance disadvantages all san francisco businesses, and our non-profits in san francisco. we agree that employees do have the right to ask. and that small businesses care as much about their employees if not more than all businesses. and small businesses are caring for their employees now. our small businesses see this as one more mandate. and they see it as a personal afront to the way that they run their business, being legislated by city legislation. and because small businesses personal to them. and it is another reason and maybe the reason for finally take their business out of san francisco. and this small business network urges the small business commission, to reject this legislation unle
you for that clarification. absolutely. with that, let's call -- we have the law library up next. [speaker not understood]. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i'm going to see if this works. i've never done this before. >> mr. clerk, could we get some help with the machine? >> may we have the overhead display? thank you. >> there it goes, thank you. great. i just want to say that even though i think about myself, i shouldn't, this is my 23rd year of annual budget hearings. the law library budget is basically the same as it has been for a long time. there are no changes in positions. there's never any overtime. the only difference is what you're already familiar with which is the fact there will be a rent cost. but other than that, there are no adjustments of any note. i'm not going to go through all of the documents i gave you. i tried to make them easy to read, but i just am responding to the questions that you had. i just wanted to address them quickly and i will try to be short. so you have time for other people. but on the first page you can see that we discussed what our missio
took this case, my law partner said, you know, crump, we're probably going to spend a lot of money, we're going to spend a lot of time and resources, and it ain't going to happen. and you know what we said? we went to law school to try to make a difference in our community to try to have equality for everybody, and so we took the case thinking we were not going to profit a penny. >> in that same interview, mark o'mara said, listen, i understand about the plight of young black men. i understand that, and i would go and put my arm around the other side and help them because i prosecute cases like that, and i defend cases like that, but take your crosshairs off of george zimmerman. he's not the one. he's not a racist. he didn't profile anyone. he is the victim in this particular case. >> it's really interesting, because the state of florida did not charge george zimmerman with racially pro filing trayvon martin. they charged him with criminally profiling trayvon martin. it was attorney o'mara and his team who decided to interject race into the trial. if you remember, attorney john guy dec
finding original finding, 1154, said, under findings of fact and conclusions of the law, the task force further noted that the statement should be within the body of the minutes to prevent the public officials from unlawfully abridging unwanted or critical public comment, which is specifically impermissible under the brown act and the sunshine ordinance. what has changed, well, last time we had three cases 10054, in january of 2011, and then we had 1154 and, then we had 1171, specifically against the city attorney saying that the task force disagreed with him and found him in violation. and now one thing that i would like to point out is that in your staff report the followings, it was listed. >> to quote, to-date, the task force has not issued any policy advice to city departments regarding compliance of sunshine ordinance, section 6716 and on the website the task force directs users to the good government guide as a legal reference. that is false. here is a letter issued in 2012, may 17th to be exact to the city attorney explaining all of the reasons why the task force disagreed with
to assume that as a public record it is disclosable, that is what the law says and the sunshine ordinance and the brown act. >> and lastly, i find it ludicris that the city attorney gives advice like this without any substance or without any written documentation or anything from a city attorney saying that this is the law. when the very first claim that i filed in the sunshine ordinance task force against the city attorney i requested confidencalty, and he wrote a letter back to several people listing my name and saying that it is ridiculous to consider mr. hartz should be confidential because everybody knows who filed the complaint. so if he respects confidentiality, why didn't he respect mine? >> okay, any further public comment? >> call to the question? >> all in favor? >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> passes unanimously. and if you would like to hear it one more time i will let you read it back to you. >> we have found that the following, commission has found that the arts commission did not comply with the requirements of section 67-26 in making its redactions. without providing t
and i do a lot of education. i'm a national education bar tenders guild. the liquor laws don't allow us to use alcohol in training. the bar tenders schools in california are a joke. it's a cheap industry where hopeful bar tenders are hoping to take a $300-500 course to use colored liquid. if we are expected to do this for educational purposes, i imagine that we have to do the same thing, to go through the legislators to propose that to the public and propose it to the abc. i believe this nightlife summit was create because of problems in the public, there was problems with noise, problems with over drinking, a lot of our laws are based on that. i'm here to propose that we have more responsible training for our bar tenders and servers. the cocktail boom around the country has turned bartenders into a true professional. now that professional bartender's job is in question. >> i'm sure it's around the whole notion of where you can drink alcohol and the idea of one of those courses or presentations or event would whether or not it would constitute a public, somebody opened to the public or
forthright to discussions about treatment and in your chronicle about laura's law that you think the need to help the vast majority of people who do want treatments. but aren't there cases as we are hearing today that force treatment is necessary? >> well, so i have been working in mental health field for about 22 years various places across the country. i have worked in crisis programs here and in new york city and pretty much ever phase of program there is. i have been a suicide prevention interventionist, i guess after this, the one thing i want to say that force is not treatment. one thing that we have learned in the community mental health system which was set up in the 60s partly to answer the need for social justice around mental health is that people respond to dignity and fair treatment. and the -- as an example of the -- i think that the psych so physiology is that it's still very coneject ral. that doesn't really matter. the one thing that i have realized in working with people in all sorts of states, regardless of what you call their state, they respond to, if you treat them
and that is usually what defense attorneys have to hammer on because the law usually is not on our side. in this case, the law is not on the state's side as much as defense side. >> what do you mean by that? >> i think the state did a great job of proving reasonable doubt for the defense. they have to look at six women, five of whom are mothers and said this kid had shilths skittles and this guy had a gun andous your common sense and mark omarahammered home the law. >> the roles are flipped and the defense said don't connect the dots and don't put it together. don't think of things that were not introduced in evidence and don't feel 0 and rest on your emotion. but the prosecution said he shot him because he wanted to and talked about a child, the last thing on earth that he tryed to do was go home. that is emotional. >> you think that the jury will respond? >> i thought the rebuttal wasective and the defense was lack luster and i was surprised because they had done a good job up to this point. why do lawyers feel like they have toous all of the time they are allotted, why, why, why? and thinking of t
of you may be merchants and which it may be landlords. the law applies to both. and that means you were 100% liable for any barriers to access and any damages that may be associated with those barriers. there are ways you can defend yourself. with your landlord or at senate -- or a tenant, this can avoid a lot of problems later on. the inspections offer a limited attempt at bringing a civil action for damages. it does not affect the ability to bring damage claims under the symbol laws. however, most lawyers -- they will not pursue the case. so, oftentimes, it works it to stop the lawsuit before it starts if you do that inspection. they are not particularly expensive. so, it is something someone would want to do. you will get a tax credit. if you need to make changes in the structure of your premises, there are also tax credits for that. most of these cases start with a letter. a demand letter. that is usually signed not by a lawyer, but by it up plaintive. the plaintiff may not be a professional plaintiff. that does not make any difference. the defense has been tried in court. is a civi
this is why we're looking at this tonight, the terrible tragedies. can these laws keep guns out of the hands of people like this? people with mental illness actually looks like this. they look like everybody in this room. they have the whole range of risk and protective factors for violence, and they range from your harmless grandmother to your neighbor's not so harmless intoxicated boyfriend and everything in between. how do we think about that? well, you know, do background checks work? there are a lot of reasons why they might not work. one has to do with the fact that clinicians can't predict violence very well. another is that states may not commit people, and other states do. it could be that people don't have to subject themselves to a background check. lots of reasons why we think they might not work very well as implemented now, but there's very little research that's been done to actually evaluate that, and i'm going to show you some of that right now. we have a study that was just completed in connecticut, and this is sort of the punchline from the study. we found 23,
mandate in the president's healthcare law. >> individual responsibility requirement is what it is called. >> it is mandated by the government. that is not individual liberty, that is individualism. >> like the government requires car insurance. >> late before a holiday weekend the administration on a blog post essentially whispers, this is not working, oops. this is a mess. >> and we don't know tomorrow. what the next shoe to drop? what else are they going to hold back on? >> i don't know how you can't conclude this a total fiasco. >> neil: so a switch for democrats to prevent it from getting blown up. welcome, i'm neil cavuto and a new poll finding 12% of americans wanted the individual mandate to kick in next year. that provision and healthcare law that would force americans to get health insurance or pay a fine. this after the white house made a similar provision for large employers. pennsylvania congressman mike kelly says is that not only not fair but the whole law ain't looking right. good to have you. it does seem to be imploding? >> it is unraveling before our eyes. we are watchi
murder under florida law is a killing that's done with ill will, hatred or spite. it indicates an indifference to human life. now, remember prosecutors had said that is reflective, the evidence of that is reflected in the defendant's telephone call to the nonemergency dispatcher in which he used profanity and disparaging remarks to describe generally people like trayvon martin who had been committing burglaries. compare that to manslaughter which is a very easy murder of proof for the prosecution. it is the intentional killing of another, in this case, trayvon martin. mere negligence is not enough. intentional killing. here is the most important part for the defense. self-defense is a complete defense and it excuses both murder and manslaughter. it negates them entirely. even if the jurors get a clarification here from the judge on manslaughter. they still have to move forward and consider what reasonable doubt is, and i'll read you specifically the jury instruction on reasonable doubt, if the defendant reasonably believed it was necessary to fire the weapon to prevent death or
on the president's decision to delay part of the healthcare law. was it even legal for him to do that? martha: some new developments in a deadly train derailment that destroyed part of a town. listen to this. investigators opened a criminal investigation into that disaster. what happened there? plus ... >> to the right, to the left. gregg: that is awful line dancing. the cupid shuffle. the days are over at the irs. what lawmaker want to do sure there are no more videos like this one out of the tax agency. every day we're working to be an even better company - and to keep our commitments. and we've made a big commitment to america. bp supports nearly 250,000 jobs here. through all of our energy operations, we invest more in the u.s. than any other place in the world. in fact, we've invested over $55 billion here in the last five years - making bp america's largest energy investor. our commitment has never been stronger. it's four times the detail of hd. colors become richer. details become clearer. which for a filmmaker, changes everything. because now there are no more barriers between the world th
there are different needs in different communities? and i think perhaps the law enforcement folks feel the cultures in the communities and see that come out in the adults. i would like to hear about how do you affect a culture and even in san francisco we have many cultures affecting what is valued, what is criticized. >> you know i think that richard touched upon this. it's a relationship of power and it's clearly going to differ from community to community; right. when i was telling you i was picked because because i didn't speak english or at all initially there were only about 5% of us that were hispanic in the school and wouldn't be the case if 95% are hispanic and english speaking as a second language, but i think the way that we can deal with the issue is we ought to first of all start with the notion of respect for others, and respect for others can work across the line. it doesn't necessarily mean -- it doesn'tly has to deal with the culture. is how we treat one another? and i think we have to be very clear in our educational process and the communication to our people and what is accep
. ♪ >> and now john stossel. ♪ [applause] him. john: and eric and a half has too many laws. is this the federal rules about 175,000 pages with. her now on not so cynical that i think politicians pass these is to control us. when there were pass someone said this lawyer is needed him. but the cumulative effect is to strangle life, stifle innovation . for every pound of good and they do tons of on-. i should not call him accretion khnum. you first. >> most of the laws or regulations are things we now except. you guys miss cigarette commercials? [applause] john: he said the smokers can't have any. >> we are winning, banning it in homes. john: a dictatorship of the majority. >> a single judge has looked at the issue and says there is no right to smoke. i don't understand why that has anything to do with anything. you had wonderful laws and not to germany, the soviet union. past mild highs of justice's court. streets and like their little children on? [applause] >> you have all your fancy theories. recently strengthened. >> who may view this hour? >> you have far more power than i do hon. i have to
on the republican efforts to repeal the health care law including the legislation coming to the floor next week that would delay for one year the employee or an individual mandate called for under the health care law. >>> representative tom price is the guest republican of georgia where he represents the sixth district. thank you for being here. >> guest: great to be with you. >> host: on the federal health care law yesterday house speaker john boehner announced a vote next week to delay the implementation of more items of law to it how will this be different than the votes that the house has taken to repeal law which hasn't gone anywhere. >> host: the landscape has changed and has admitted with their own delay of the employer mandate for a year from january 1st, 2014 to 2015. adel all isn't workable at least employers from their perspective we believe that is the case. and we believe that that ought to be codified. the congress ought to ratify that and say it is unworkable and we ought to require employers to comply with the law i
>>> the obama administration declines to enforce a key part of its health care law and the gop see as new opening to delay the entire bill. will they succeed? plus, an oil train derailment wipes out a canadian town. does it bolster the case for the keystone pipeline? and former new york governor eliot spitzer takes a page from the anthony weiner playbook and jumps back into politics. voters seem inclined to give them bothing a second chance. but why? >> people who suggested that will's anything unusual about the delay of the deadline and implementation of a complex and comprehensive law are, you know, deliberately sticking their heads in the santd or willfully ignorant about past precedent. >> welcome to "the journal editorial report." that was white house press secretary jay carney wednesday defending the obama administration's decision not to enforce a key part of the affordable care act. some say that in defiance of the law. the administration claims it has the legal authority to delay the employer mandate until 2014 and insist it is rest of obama care is still on track. but gop
stossel. ♪ [applause] him. john: and eric and a half has too many laws. is this the federal rules about 175,000 pages with. her now onot so cynical that i think politicians pass these is to control us. when there were pass someone said this lawyer is needed him. but the cumulative effect is to strangle life, stifle innovation . for every pound of good and they tons of on-. i should not call him accretion khnum. you first. >> most of the laws or regulations are things we now except. you guys miss cigarette commercials? [applause] john he said the smokers can't have any. >> we are winning, banning it in homes. john: a dictatorship of the majority. >> a single judge has looked at the issue and says there is no right to smoke. i don't understand why that has anything to do with anything. you had wonderful laws and not to germany, the soviet union. past mild highs of justice's court. streets and like their little children on? [applause] >> you have all your fancy theories. cently strengthened. >> who may view this hour? >> you have far more power than i do hon. i have to persuade that i am r
for anything that's gone sideways like this, i think it's pathetic that a court of law cannot be in a vacuum of the legal system without the influence of the public threatening to do great bodily harm to people and property. it's really a prophetic statement nor our country. >> i'm going to ask you all to get on the record and with predictions? >> it's going to be an acquittal. there's not going to be a lesser of manslaughter conviction, and if the defense rests tomorrow, probably see that by friday. >> at least by -- i don't think the jury will go past the weekend. valerie? >> i'm going to say, i want to keep my job here at fox 35 so i'm going to maintain balance. >> i'll put in a good word if you give me the answer. i don't know if it will help or hurt. mark fuhrman? >> it's going to be -- it should be an acquittal by the evidence. if anything goes sideways, you'll have one juror that hangs it. >> i agree. that's a possibility. i think it was over the second that john good, the one eyewitness testified that trayvon was on top. >> agreed. >> mma, ground and pound, straddling and fists going
and timothy murphy. >> and what has been revealed by mr. snowden violates at least two federal laws governing surveillance. section 215 of the patriot act. but also the constitution. which nobody has brought up. what authorizes the press to do what it does? the first amendment. and i've represented n.s.a. whistle blower thomas drake. he went through every proper internal channel. some of your other guests talked about that's what a real whistle blower should do. he did. not only did that not achieve anything, but the government turned around and prosecuted him for espionage. >> and we conclude with former new york governor elliott spitzer. >> just tell me personally what was what were the events that led up to that that caused you to hire prostitutes and to risk your... and to risk the job that you had worked so hard to get? from a personal point of view that led up to that. >> i don't think i can shed light on what motivations other than to acknowledge that we have within us all drives, urges which should be tempered, controlled, modulated, held in check. that i did not. i don't know if i ca
. why for a delay just for employers and not for the individual mandate? if it ii in the law, how can any of it be delayed without congressional approval? the latest fight in washington and one with serious consequences for all of us, every american. fox business's elizabeth macdonald is on the story. emac, how can they do this without congressional approval? >> that is exactly right. three gop members. house, fill roe, kevin brady and darrell issa saying same thing. you can't ignore the law and constitution, constitution article iii, section 2, you have to dutifully to execute the law. you don't have discretionary power to enforce the law and what laws you pick and choose. kevin brady saying, i may hold a hearing and phil roe i want congressional reserve service to look into it. adam: did he say what resource congress would have tt make the president follow the law? >> he didn't say what recourse, treasury and administration saying, national federation of independent business said we want this delay. it will cost 1.6 million jobs. as we pointed out, what about the individual mandate?
to the egyptian military's removal of president morsi as a coup. by law that would trigger automatic freezes of $1.3 billion in u.s. aid to the egyptian military. president obama did not mention the rapidly changing situation in egypt on america's independence day when he addressed the soldiers and their families invited to the white house. even though he and his national security staff had been huddled in the situation room on july fourth, determining what the u.s. response should be to the removal and arrest of president morsi. the african union ejected egypt from its ranks following what it termed a coup. >> i would keep the aid flowing, particularly to the military, where we have the most leverage, and you know, all, all of this talk about why the administration can't call it a coup, you know, can't speak the truth, really conceals the fact that in virtually all of our foreign assistance legislation there's a presidential waiver power. >> reporter: on capitol hill lawmakers are on a week-long recess for the july fourth holid holiday which buys the administration some time. shortly after morsi'
that are raised for food. it only applies to animals at the time of their death, and that law exempts poultry, which are 90% of the animals that are killed on factory farms. on top of that, 25 states carve out specific exemptions for customary practices, and those premises are defined by industry itself as whenever they see as business as usual. in other words, between 8-9 billion animals are killed every single year for food in this country alone. i say all this because it puts investigators in a different light. they are the only way that we can know what is going on behind closed doors. the response to these investigations has not been to change animal welfare standards, or to change the abusive practices, but to get the people who are exposing them. they were 10 bills introduced last year that criminalize undercover investigations of factory farms and slaughterhouses. they include language i will talk about in a minute about banning photography, videos, and enhance criminal penalties for that. this has passed in several states. they are green on the map. in 2013, 12 bills have been introd
by a coup. a law on the books that says you don't give foreign aid to military koupz whecoups, and we to do it and think we'll influence these people by continuing to throw money at them. i think it's a real mistake. >> why hasn't the obama administration called it a coup? >> i think they are confused on this. so many supporters of foreign aid think that's how we buy friendship and influence people. there was a gallup poll in egypt, and 77% of egyptians don't want our money. they burn our flag, don't want our money and we say, here, you must take it. behave and act like americans, but there isn't a whole lot of real democracy going on over there. >> maybe this has something to do with it. section 508 of the foreign assistance act says "none of the funds appropriate otherwise made available to this act will be obligated any assistance to any country dually elected head of government is deposed you about a military decree or coup. maybe they don't want to be put into that box? >> you hear the president's response, oh, we have a democratically elected acting undemocratically. democracy is wher
and honoring our heritage of rule of law. but we have a problem. the laws governing the immigration system aren't working. the system is broken. we're now in an important debate reforming those laws. >> michael: still hard not to smile. that position puts him at odds with the republican leadership. house speaker john boehner said he will not even look at the immigration ball. paul ryan and eric cantor are right there with him. both said they have not read the bill. and tim huelskamp said, i haven't read it yet. they decided to table the issue until next session when they think they'll have a bigger majority. so much for reaching out to latinos. they are motto is clinging to their demographic majority, which is white men and keep the demographics as small as humanly possible. stove king of iowa said this, it would hurt republicans. and two of the three new citizen was be democrats. as boehner sweeps the issue of immigration under the rug he returns to the republicans' over favorite issue of lost cause the obamacare. boehner and house republicans seize the opportunity to attack the president afte
interpreting the law. the state often returned to its tactic of using zimmerman's own words against him. >> he does not want to admit at all that he's following him or chasing him or profiling him. >> reporter: while the jury sat for much of the delivery, zimmerman's parents in court for the first time as spectators since the trial started, looked at times incredulous as the state concluded for the day, a rare reaction from george zimmerman himself. >> the man who is guilty of second degree murder. thank you. >> reporter: earlier the court heard arguments on lesser charges that could be presented to the jury. it was no surprise the state asked for the lesser charge of manslaughter. but the defense was stunned when it wanted to add third degree felony murder, arguing the death of 17-year-old trayvon martin at the hands of george zimmerman was, among other things, child abuse. >> the non-enumerated felony alleged as child abuse. obviously the information alleges that the defendant shot and killed the victim, that the victim was under the age of 18. and child abuse must be, according to the third
to new structures and implement laws thought up in faraway brussels. but the small city has always face the future with pragmatism. according to legend, giants build homes from the stones left over from other towns done below in the valley -- down below in the valley. >> not everywhere in croatia is as picturesque and peaceful. croatia is the first new eu members stated that experienced violent conflict not so long ago. croatians achieve their independence against the yugoslav army a and the serbs. an international court is still dealing with the worst atrocities. coming to terms with the past is something that is particularly difficult in regions when neighbors suddenly turn into enemies. >> these steps lead to their past. the basement of the former hospital is now a museum rooms have been kept almost as they were in the battle in 1991. yelena points to her father. >> and that is igor's father. both were ambulance drivers during the war. >> the last time i talked to my father was october 31, 1991. we talked on the phone. it was my birthday. >> he was later executed by serbian troops al
is arguing what is credible, not what is actual. >> i understand both arguments. >> as a matter of law, following someone on foot or by car is not against the law. you are absolutely allowed to do that if you want to. and especially if you want to tell police where the person is. that cannot be considered provocation under the law just like because you happen to have a concealed weapons permit and have a licensed firearm on your person, that cannot be considered actual force or the threat of force. it obviously under gibbs and the reasonable construction of this issue with our common sense is force means force. force means force. physical force. or the threat of physical force. not a gun that's properly concealed and certainly not the lawful act of doing what you're allowed to do in this state which is if you see somebody suspicious, by your own definition frankly, whatever you think is suspicious is good enough under neighborhood watch or by any other measure, and you call the police and you're asked to let you know if he does anything else and you follow the person in order to be abl
plate readers are increasingly common, they are used in 38 states. these officers say that are able law enforcement tool. upthis was able to pick stolen license plates or wanted people we may not always catch. >> they contain a data base of vehicle registration plates and other vehicles involved in crime and an officer cruising by a row of parked cars -- they compare the license plates with those in the data base. if there is a match -- >> the officer is alerted and the investigation began. >> a growing number of americans say that this is a dangerous tracking technology that is recording and storing the movement of millions of law and thought -- law-abiding motorists with little oversight. >> that is why last month there was a lawsuit against the loss angeles police department -- los angeles police department, and they say that this has the potential to be abused. >> when they publish -- when they have information and this is stored in the government, this will give power to the government and we really need regulations that put in place limits on how these new technologies can be used
on president obama. u.s. law for bids providing support for leaders of a military coups. yesterday the white house signaled they wouldn't be cutting off the $1.5 billion of aid. president morsi will not be missed in washington but there are concerns about the precedent that has been set. reassuringly egypt's new interim president has promise ed there will be a new parliament, a new president and a constitution all within six months. this comes though against the back drop of more than 50 islamist protestors being killed by the military on monday. another problem for the administration overseas, afghanistan. reports suggest including starting in the "new york times" on tuesday that president obama is frustrated now with president karzai and is considering a so-called zero option. that would mean a full withdrawal of all american troops by the end of 2014 more than has been anticipated. no forces left there. joining me from washington to talk about these two very big issues. peter baker the white house correspondent for the new york times and also from washington andrea mitchell the chief fore
restraint or did not violate the laws of the state of florida. but, again, the defense expected to rest its case at some point today. >> thank you, craig melvin. i want to bring in msnbc news legal analyst lisa bloom. let me pick occupy what craig had to say. if the three things with the witness on the stand right now, dennis root cannot talk about, what is the defense need him for? what will be his purpose today? >> well, i assume the defense is going to get out of him whatever is left of his testimony, i mean, essentially surrounding the issue of force issue. this is the kind of expert witness who typically testifies in police cases after there is a shooting and the family sues or police officer is accused of a crime, that the police officer acted with restraint and reasonably under the circumstances. as craig said this testimony is so severely limited. so much what happens in this trial is determined behind the scenes and the judge is not there and the jury is limited to what goes on. >> let's go again. this is dennis root. he is an expert on safety and law enforcement training, a privat
. if the legislation passed by house republicans or the plan by senate republicans becomes law, student loan rates would more than double over the next few years as interest rates increased. the speaker, speaker boehner, has said that the house has acted and now the ball is in the senate's house. we talked about that yesterday, madam president. what is he talking about? they've acted and now we should act. i guess we could talk about what he this didn't do last year on the farm bill. i guess we could talk about what they didn't do last year on the post office. i guess we could talk about what they haven't done this year on the farm bill. we could talk about what they haven't done that is so devastating to small businesses around america; that is, having people who are online who don't build a single building, rent a single building, they get a different rate of return than do those brick-and-mortar build, they do that because they don't have to pay sales tax. we could talk about why the speaker is refusing to take up something that's meaningful. as i say about this student loan thing -- i've said
the law. >> reporter: zimmerman could be convicted of second-degree murder if the juryize he fired that fatal shot out of spite or anger but the jury is also being allowed to consider the lesser charge of manslaughter if the panel decides zimmerman acted outside the scope of law. if the jury agrees with the defense that he fired in defense zimmerman could walk away from all of this a free man. back to you. >> thanks so much for that update. let's recap. after hearing from more than 50 witnesses during the three week trial what will the jury be look at. >> we have our legal team here, defense attorney and fox news legal analyst. both have been closely watching this trial. here's a question that i don't know the answer to. how is it the government can charge zimmerman with one thing, fail to prove that he is guilty of that thing and then tell the jury he can convict him of something else. how does that work? >> number one, nobody said he failed to prove it at this point. >> if they are confident they wouldn't give the jury the option. >> that's not necessarily true. this happens all
's . that started some conversations that initiate neighborhoods and law enforcement on the nightlife and entertainment. because of some of the work that you have done here, we have moved some conversations politically in which we have much more collaboration, much more cooperation and much more creativity when it comes to brainsorming. i want to thank offi to help us enforce the rules and i than those in this room as well as those in c mac that gave my office ideas to make sure our party planning world would make sure it's successful that folks that operate parking lots are also responsible partners. all of these could not come from the work that all of you are doing with our entertainment commission staff to make sure that we are working together and moving in the right direction to ensure that we have the most successful and the best an most exciting nightlife in the country. i'm really excited about the fact that within a few short months we are going to be kicking off the america's cup in my district and hopefully we'll have the most amazing parties to entertain millions of folk
are reviewing our obligations under the law. lou: the press secretary caught himself just-in-time but the foreign assistance act of 1961 requires the government to restrict assistance to any country that the head of the government is opposed by a military coup or decree but the administration has decided to ignore the law to continue moving money to the egyptian military. our first guest says the administration is now silent to avoid further embarrassment after the decision to aggressively support the muslim brotherhood that it equals democracy. joining us tonight former federal prosecutor who led the successful terrorism prosecution of the 1993 world trade center bombers bombers, a great to have you with us. this spectacle of watching the press secretary and the administration refused to call what has occurred in egypt a coup, your reaction? >> think it is laughable in the sense the underlying reason for their reluctance the law calls on them to cut off aid they have not paid any attention up to the lot at this point so this is in a president who decides to make recess ap
which he fought for so long in the justice. the decision was law of the land. equal justice under law. >> when a supreme court decided the gideon case, they really brought light to that phrase. it doesn't matter if you are rich, it doesn't matter if you are poor, you get the same equal chance. >> just look at what happened to gideon. the supreme court didn't set gideon free but it gave him a fair trial with a competent attorney. >> not guilty. >> clarence earl gideon was a free man. the man who won a landmark supreme court case went to live a normal living with a job pumping gas. >> when i read where it says equal justice under law, i'm very inspired by that. i'm very comforted by that. but i know a lot of people are treated unfairly. i see it as something encouraging but i don't see it yet. >> it's written into constitution and established into the goal for society to reach for and live up to. people will fall short, rights can be ignored or even trampled. with nothing more than a pencil and knowledge. >> if you know your rights you can protect your rights. if you don't know your r
emerging to watch, she's also graduated from georgetown university law center and practicing attorney and abc television networks before starting her television career and next is john. i met john about 10 years ago when he was starting off and had this crazy idea of operating a training center for public defenders and he did. he's no now the president and founder and one of the contributors to gideon's army, he's from john marshall law school where he teaches law and criminal procedure. he was in the post katrina and new orleans center. he trained people in the film. he received an advocacy fellowship and named a public interest fellow by harvard law school. next we have maurice call well. he was convicted in the housing project here in san francisco. there was no physical evidence linking him to the crime yet he was still convicted based on the false testimony of a single neighbor. he was sentence to life behind bars. in prison mr. colwell contacted the center for help and located two witnesses who saw the murder and said mr. colwell was not involved in anyway. they located the re
and purposes, it is clear right now. law enforcement has left for the night. so have the handful of demonstrators who were here. they were the largest number we've seen since the trial started. we're only talking about 21, 2. law enforcement held anous conference encouraging people who live nearby and people around the country, as well to remain calm despite the verdict. i've got to be honest with you, having been here on the ground, having been over to see the protesters, it does appear as if that's a legitimate concern right now. there has not been a great deal of activity in front of the courthouse. three of the jurors were sent home a few hours ago, the three jurors who despite the fact they've spent the better part of the last month sequestered, they were alternates. >> you'd love to know what their assessment is, won't you? >> yeah, oh, yeah. we won't know for some time because their identities are being hidden till at least the verdict is reached by order of judge nelson, those three jurors. >> thank you for your great report. he for an analysis of today's events, i'm join
. let me lay it out to you. local law enforcement have paid for wiretaps since 1994. under the clinton administration they set aside a half billion bucks for it. and so the question is, what is the right way to go? should taxpayer pay for the spying or not. >> i am with john on this. this is not a conversation approximate taxes or terrorism. it is a question of our civil liberties and our constitution. we are live nothing a brave new world in which the raditional military physical plant is no longer what wins wars. big data wins wars and we have to be extra vigilant to make sure privacy and liberties are protected. >> rick, the american viewer will say we want to catch the terrorist and stop the bad guys, but when the irs has more information about us than before and the time when the consumer protection bureau and collecting information on everyone's credit card and mortgages and car loans, the american people say there may be limits to spying or all of this surveillance going on. >> and we'll be careful and it issed kind of wiretaps are not what you are reading about in the data and
went too far. he law enforcement aspirations, that were quashed. wanted to finally be the hero. i think that's why they did that. got a lot of points that they needed to. however, i'm concerned that the jury doesn't have it all together as neatly and powerfully as they need to. >> tomorrow, i bet it's all brought together. >> rebuttal is where the defense doesn't get to respond. they are saving the best and most couple of clopowerful clos defense doesn't get to get up. >> jose baez. >> i don't think this was ber e bernie's best day. i found it over the top, too much screaming, sarcastic at times, and i don't think you persuade that day. presentation was very off. giving inconsistent statements, he didn't have inconsistent statements one right after the other. filled in the blanks for the jury. >> i didn't think so either. mark fuhrman, your thought on closing? >> i agree with jose baez. it was uninuninspiring, false a, bad acting. i just didn't like it, and it's interesting, the prosecution has still not walked us through the movements of both the victim and the suspects so we can clea
than the beard, he decided to represent himself and he wanted to blowed guilty and military law prohibits that because it is a capital case. and then he wanted to say he was saving taliban leaders by carrying out the shooting and the court would not allow that. 13 people died here in 2009 and 30 injured. on this program, a sergeant shot five times that day described what the wait was like. >> not only the victims and survivors, but our families. now we'll get a chance to close the chapture and once again a setback in our way. >> if everything goes as planned and opening statements scheduled to begin on august 6th. it is an interesting process. >> indeed it will. thank you. the gunman's own paralysis when he was shot as he was shooting others. hassan's doctor said he can't sit more than 12 hours upright. he must have 15- 20 minute breaks for stretching every four hours and he must lift himself off of the whole chair every half an hour. it is going to be something to watch all of this play out, only adding insult to the victims and their families, hassan has collected a paycheck.
setback for president obama's health care law. today we are finding out penalties required for tobacco use may be limited because of a computer glitch. it's just the latest fiasco causing confusion as we get closer to the law's official start date, and with each new problem the president appears to be picking and choosing which parts of the health care law he plans to enforce like last week's decision to suspend the employer mandate until 2015. let's talk about it with a.b. stoddard, an associate editor and columnist for "the hill." to this so-called tobacco glitch, first of all, a.m. b., young smokers and old smokers who are to be insured under this health care law are to pay a penalty but for the be older -- but for the older smokers, that penalty is very prohibitive and, what, the computers couldn't handle it? >> yeah. the way that it's been reported, this is truly staggering, the glitch has been rejected by the computer, and the system cannot bear the new rule. so what we're being told is it's going to turn out one of two ways. either that older smokers could get a break, or that they
. of course, they're preparing to rest the case. they called a former law enforcement officer to the stand and also an experienced trainer on the use of deadly force. he testified that zimmerman had no fighting skills and that he believed trayvon martin was more physically fit. >> comparing what i know of to the best of my knowledge for each individual, mr. martin was physically active and a capable person. mr. zimmerman is an individual who is by no stretch of the imagination an athlete and that his physical -- i believe it's my opinion that the physical abilities he would find himself lacking when compared to mr. martin. >> under cross-examination, he admitted that this is his first time testifying as an expert witness and that his consulting firm would benefit from the publicity from the trial. prosecutor john guy also asked him about the screams for help heard on the night of the shooting. >> if a person sees a firearm, would it be unusual for them to yell for help? >> if an average individual saw a gun that was pointed at them, i would say absolutely not. anybody looking down the barr
to change existing law and constitute legislation on an appropriation bill. therefore it violates clause 2 of rule 21. the rule states in mr. perriello: -- in pertinent part, an amendment to a general appropriation bill shall not be in order if changing existing law. the amendment proposes to state a legislative position. i'm asking for a ruling from the chair. the chair: does any member wish to be heard on the point of order? if not, the chair is prepared to resume. the amendment offered -- rule. the amendment offered by the gentleman from north carolina proposes to state a legislative position of the house. as such, the amendment constitutes legislation in violation of clause 2 of rule 21. the point of order is sustained and the amendment is not in order. who seeks recognition? for what purpose does the gentleman from pennsylvania seek recognition? >> my friend, mr. duffy from wisconsin, and i have an amendment at the desk. the chair: the clerk will report. will the gentleman specify the amendment? .> amendment to h.r. 2609 >> amendment number 20. in the congressional record. the chair:
. >> no cops, no guns. >> four patience will be tested but law enforcement has your backs. >> no need to act up. >> let it roll off your shoulders and not off your back. >> let's make the choice and raise your voice and not your head. >> law enforcement does have your back. gregg: this video clip titled raise your voice, not your hands. zimmerman's attorney says he is concerned for his client's safety. martha: was the judge -- was judge nelson out of line with zimmerman's defense yesterday when she kept going directly to zimmerman and asking him, do you want to take the stand in this case. but what can we expect when she charged the jury with their instructions whether she'll give them the option of choosing lesser charges against zimmerman. this is a crucial decision. judge janine shapiro weighs in later in the program. i weren't wait to hear what she has to say. greg * a stunning look into the outrageous spending habits of the federal government, its own watchdog, the gao, the government accountability office says it's literally flying bliewnld. it finds federal agencies wasting $100 billion
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in the white house. >> we have a problem. the laws governing immigration system aren't working. the system is broken. we are now in an important debate reforming those laws. and that is good. i don't tend to get involved in the politics or the specifics of policy, but i do hope there is a positive resolution to the debate. lou: president obama's press secretary jay carney taking a different approach today essentially blaming his bosses support for the gang of eight bill and the house's reluctance to hold a vote. >> i know it annoys them that he is in office, let's just accept that. but this isn't about him. the reason why we have the progress we have seen is in no small measure because of the support the president has put behind immigration reform of the advocacy he engaged in throughout the campaign and throughout his first term, but it is not about him. >> it is not about him, although it was about him, but the communications department at the white house struggling with the language, most americans learned last year's possession campaign conservatism to prevail, far more than a balanced
and arguing with they believe the evidence will show, now the judge is going to instruct them on the law. that's why we're all here, right? we want the jury to follow the law and apply it to the facts. she's now going to become basically their law professor. she's going to explain to them what they are tasked to do. they are tasked to determine whether or not george zimmerman is guilty of second degree murder or whether or not that crime was justified or excusable. and then if they don't find him guilty of second-degree murder, they're also going to be charged and instructed by this judge, who i think, by the way, has just done a terrific job of building a rapport with this jury, she's going to instruct them that they can also consider manslaughter. and that self-defense is also a defense to manslaughter. we're going to actually hear the law today. i think it's going to be very interesting for these jurors. because then they're going to take the facts as they know them in their heads and then apply those jury instructions to the facts. >> don lemon, go ahead. set the scene for us. we can't see
of hacking into sensitive employee files and then trying to protect himself under the whistle blower law with unfounded allegations against his former colleagues. outside of the courthouse a group of protesters continues to grow while most of the protesters are calling for the jury to convict george zimmerman. there is a smaller group out here rallying for his acquittal. at times both sides confront each other and spirited debate. but so far the protests have remained peaceful. inside the jury expected to resume deliberations any minute now. deciding whether george zimmerman should be acquitted in which case he would walk out of here a free man or whether to convict him in which case worst-case scenario for him, he could face life in prison. >>> with the case resting in the hands of the jury now let's take a look back at how he got here. on february 26 of last year, trayvon martin is shot and killed. at the time police referred to george zimmerman as a suspect. a month and a half later, zimmerman is charged with second-degree murder and taken into custody. fast forward now to june of thi
mandate of the law. why isn't the press paying attention? >> the injuries on mr. zimmerman's back of his head consistent with someone doing this? >> wall-to-wall coverage of the zimmerman murder trial gives critics a chance to slam the media accusing some of tabloid antics and using the event to ramp up poor ratings. has the press misused its privilege? unrest in egypt gets media attention. tensions in the region are a real concern. but is the situation there too complicated for proper coverage? >> lied about personal sexual activity, yes. >> when it comes to bad behavior of high-profile politicians do the media tend to forgive and hen forget? does that only apply to members of one political party? when it comes to getting your news, get a switch news channel comes out on top. on the pan they will week, writer and fox news contributor judy miller. editor of the national review, rich lauery. kearse ton powers. fox news contributor richard grinnell. >>> you can argue that there are some republicans that are trying to sabotage the law. that they are hoping to not get it off the ground and t
lawful which upheld the criminal investigation. but the pen register in smith was very primitive and attract the numbers being dialed but it didn't indicate which calls were completed alone the duration and the surveillance was directed at someone to the cussing will criminal suspect. the police or not casting a net over the country. another argument offered in defense of the program is that the nsa collected immense amount of information, it examines only a tiny fraction. but the fourth amendment is triggered by the collection of information not simply by the clearing above it. the same is true of the first amendment because the chilling effect of government surveillance stems from the collection of information not nearly the analysis of it read the constitution isn't indifferent to the government's accumulation of the quantities of sensitive information about americans lives. neither should the board be. it's worth remembering in the context of that other countries have inspired a total awareness of their citizens' associations, movements and believes. the experience of those c
parents didn't make ale lot of money so i would not have gone to college, would not have gone to law school had it not been for federal financial aid in the form of pell grants and loans and work study. all these programs opened that door for me. i don't think any of my siblings could have gone to college without some adennis since. the point is i know how important these programs are to americans. when i was elected to the senate? 2010 i had a student loan that was over $100,000 and i was fortunate enough as i've said this publicly, write a book which is available in paperback if anyone is interested, and with the proceeds that i made i was able to pay off that line lone. had it not been for that i'm not sure when i would have paid off my student loan for law school. it was over $100,000. early on when i had multiple loans from undergraduate grad and law school and the private loans for the bar study, there were months my loan payments were higher than anything else i was paying, at the peak about $1,400 a month. that's after making what moafs people would consider a pretty good liv
.c., does president obama have any respect for the law? with all the changes and the delays he's making to obama care, some are asking this important question. does he have the legal right to do it? a top constitutional scholar is calling foul on all of this and he is going to join us tonight. all those stories and much more coming up on "the kudlow report," beginning right now. >> first up, this evening let's talk earnings. how will the quarter shake out? cnbc's own bob fa is asani has details. >> it was a risk day, with major outperformance from transportation stocks and home building stock, material, energy, financials were strong as well. and even though a lot of people are convinced this will be another lackluster quarter for earnings growth, you know the s&p 500 is within roughly 1% of a historic high. now, my take on earnings this quarter is pretty simple. the estimates are for earnings growth of 1 to about 3%. they vary. but the final number invariably is three points higher than the initial number for start of the quarters so earnings are likely to be up 4% to 6%. that's below
at the law is not a good one for the rule of law. >> whenever we argue for tax reductions particularly back in the reagan tax reductions we talkd about this huge underground economy that was created by too high tax rates and too complicatedded a tax structure. all those people were technically law breakers. i didn't hear a lot of conservatives arguing we can't possibly reduce tax rates and simplify the tax code because that will simply make all those people legal again. we said this is the way of putting an end to illegal activity generated largely by an unenforceable set of laws in this case the tax code. i think we have a similar situation with regard to immigration. we don't have a set of laws that can be enforced with people who are determined to get out of the situation they're in at home and want to come here. >> we continue with the discussion of morality and politics. i'm joined by frank bruny of the "new york times," karen tumulty of the "washington post" and film maker alex gibney. >> a broader question. is all of this going on with the scandals with anthony weaner and elliott spi
. it will require a significant involvement of local law enforcement. if the genesis of this terrorism is to not -- domestic, the only chance to detect it is if the fbi and other agencies use local law enforcement as their eyes and ears. there are only 12,000 fbi agents in the entire world. or are 35,000 new york city police officers for one city. there are 800,000 police officers for our country. 12,000 fbi agents. if you are trying to find a needle in a haystack in a community in america, the fbi cannot do it. i do not have the numbers to do it. the reality is they have to be trained in how to detect terrorism. former police commissioner, my police commissioner in new york, has developed excellent protocol called the precursors of terrorism. things police officers can be trained to look for terrorists. over the past 15 years and over the past 2000 -- i have been in law enforcement for 2000 years. knowing back to the 1960s, i have worked with the fbi and the local police. the fbi has made tremendous progress in bringing in state and local law enforcement. it is light years ahead of wh
the last five or six mont months, he was sick and tired of it. but the law doesn't say, okay, take the law in your own hands. okay, i'm sorry, i've got the wrong guy. i'm so sorry, i thought he was a criminal. mr. martin, tracy martin, i'm so sorry, i made a mistake, i didn't realize that trayvon martin was minding his own business, i'm terribly sorry. you know the law doesn't say that. the law talks about accountability and responsibility for one's actions. and that's what we're asking for in this case. hold the defendant responsible for his actions. hold him accountable for what he did. because if the defendant hadn't assumed that, trayvon martin would've watched the basketball game, george zimmerman i'm assuming would've gone to target and does whatever he does on sunday evenings and we wouldn't be here. the law doesn't allow people to take the law into their own hands. it doesn't allow, quite frankly, even the police to take the law into their own hands. the police had gotten called out there, they would have, okay, what are you doing here? can i ask you what you're doing? do you mind
year, four months and 16 days later. a jury in a court of law is deciding whether george zimmerman should be criminally responsible for his death. every second it goes by brings us closer to that verdict. with me now is my all-star legal panel, joy reid, managing editor the, former prosecutor faith jenkins, defense attorney ken padowitz, and former prosecutor marcia clark. she is author of "killer ambition." thank you all for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> great to be here. >> thank you. >> marcia, how did the defense and prosecution do today in their final arguments to the jury? >> reverend, i thought they both did a really good job, very strong. and, you know, it's interesting the different styles that they have to adopt. and wisely. so you know, the defense approaches this from a very calm, very reasoned, let's all calm down now and think rationally, you know, and try to step away from all the sympathy issues that are very much in play for the prosecution. and which john guy i thought very effectively used to his benefit in talking about the young man and bo
. you are not going to see u.s. carriers do anything like this. we have discrimination laws on the books. it would see it be costly across the board for other airlines. >> i agree with john. i think a private airline should be able to do what it wants. however, the old days when all of the others focused on h -- they called them stewardess in the 60s and 70s and most of the fliers were men. that has changed as a result of society change. but maybe it hasn't in india. >> i am flipping on this one. i am with steve forbes. rich has the math right and he has it exactly right. tell me this, why is it everybody goes bonkers if mayor bloomburg wants to save you some weight by keeping you from drinking 175 ounces of soda at the movies, but if a private business wants to discriminate on weight, it is all good. >> fair. john, what is the difference? >> there is a big difference and rick knows it. one is coercion by a politician and the other is a private business choosing to do what is best and most profitable. to compare the two -- >> that is the point. we don't like to be forced to do something
the first amendment does not say that every individual has a right to decide which laws he will obey and which ones he will not. if he wants to disobey, we have a historic and heroic example of the civil rights movement, which came up with the idea of civil this obedience. if he had stayed in the country and made his case, he went to hong kong, he is in moscow, who the hell knows. these are not the friends of liberty. i am not sure he is speaking on behalf of the first amendment or anything. i'm not sure what he is speaking on behalf of that i can assure you as he carried in hong kong, everything in his computers were scooped up by the secret services of the chinese and russians. im not sure that is a friend of liberty. >> there are limits to the first amendment. >> it is not a suicide pact. you can't go out and tell the nation's secrets to our enemies and do it willfully. but it is amazing how much you can do. there are some limits but there is a lot of freedom. we are constantly testing the boundaries. >> what about people in our business? do we cross the line? >> we do cross the l
that is the law. that the task force should go to the court and get the court to concern that whether i can make a decision of whether, something is not private. and if the city attorney... and that information is private. and i don't know what gives me the authority so say that the city attorney is wrong and i am ordering them to treat it as public. maybe i am, maybe i am troubled in so many of these cases, the city attorney has given an opinion or advice to an individual or a commission or an agency and and the force takes issue with that. but when it comes to us, where in the ordinance that i am going to over rule the city attorney. >> and i may be wrong. >> and i agree, it does not make any sense, why do we have a city attorney in that case. >> what is it? >> section 67.21, e, for edward. says that if the custodian refuses to comply or completely combines or if it is not acted on by the civil branch of the public record, the person making the request that would be me, that the petition task force for determination and the record request is public, and the sunshine task force shall inform the
on law. >> reporter: our company has simulators for each aircraft. which has given our pilots sufficient training. so i think there is no problem. >> they added that all responsibilities lie with the pilot who serves as the instructor. they said the airline is waiting for the u.s. national transportation safety board and south korean investigators to determine the cause of the crash. the team with the ntsb is looking into another weekend plane crash, this time at a airport in the state of alaska. all ten people aboard died. the accident happened on sunday in the town of solodotna. local media report the float plane crashed during takeoff and caught fire. an air taxi company offered the aircraft. police have been working to identify the victims. >>> emergency crews in canada are searching for 40 people believed to be missing after a runaway freight train exploded in the heart of a small town. the accident in the province of quebec killed at least five people. the 72-car train was carrying crude oil. it somehow managed to roll away from a station in the early hours of saturday. it went bar
footage if it exist. putting a condition on a permit to side step those laws, those processes, it's not good for our community. if the police department wants to have cameras outside of my business, let them engage the community and let them do it themselves. i'm not interested in participating in surveillance on my patrons. >> so, do you think that -- [ applause ] >> do you think that more businesses should bear the cost or not bear the cost of cameras instead of the city bearing the cost. >> i think the city should have cameras. there are places where that is useful. having cameras near registers can save many dollars. if you believe your clientele is potentially violent on damaging in terms of graffiti cost, you can have many reasons to have cameras. if a business wants to install their cameras and use them, they should bear that cost. if footage exist that law enforcement wants access to, there is a process that allows the law enforcement access to that. so, if a business wants to install cameras, absolutely they should bear the cost, but having law enforcement require cameras
made a determination and i am not lying. you know, duty bound to up hole the law and it is correct. but, could there still be not enough of a... >> i guess... >> a major follow in order for there to be another violation. >> i see what you are saying, commissioner and i have different views as to whether the city attorney has the last so-called last word here. and i think and i am certainly willing to be persuaded that we are called to make an independent assessment here about what the right answer is. and to me, in this case, it does not matter because i agree with what the city attorney said in my mind. and i think that issue comes more to a head if we disagree with what a city attorney said. well, i was going on commission renne when he was saying that we could educate the commission. in that part of the education would be, it is not required but it is strongly recommended that you would get a written opinion from the city attorney to provide to the requestor of the information? i don't know if it means anything and, i don't know if the word of mouth is better or worse or a written de
to craft a path forward on immigration laws, and speaker john boehner says there's lots of crafting to be done. tracie potts joins us live now with washington with the latest. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. that's because boehner says he doesn't want to deal with the senate bill that passed at all. the house republicans starting from scratch when they meet behind closed doors. the big question they're facing is this, are they going to deal with border security happening first and being guaranteed first before they deal at all with the millions of people who are now living in this country without proper paperwork, undocumented workers, that is the big question facing his caucus. now the senate passed the bill with republican support but it provides a path to citizenship for those immigrants and the house says they're not going to be dealing with that. also today, the so-called dreamers, children who were brought into this country illegally, they will be rallying here on capitol hill. they'll be knocking on doors to try to get support. former george w. bush today speaks at a
officers that believe in law enforcement. they don't like that one particular areas in san francisco because their crime infested and have been for years. and law enforcement and police officers are looking forward to the idea of putting things in order. a lot of good police officers stand at all. and i'm really proud of that. so thank you very much for bringing more law enforcement into the area because that's working well. i do want to see more law enforcement on top of what's coming in and i'm proud of the law enforcement for addressing those issues but we need 24/7 law enforcement in a lot of areas thank you very much interest >> thank you. next speaker, please . >> well, this is going to be different. i'll be the critic. i've been around who's seen many chiefs and i've seen them all come and go. police officer commissioners and david in my district. jim who i poke to a few days ago. he's working for fox now. i spoke to bill before that time a few days ago. friends. friends. i'm looking at sf 0. this officer ran up 0 shoot and into the plane and cut the seat belt great job. mea
. then because we have no money, we reach out to the local bar. law firms like jim's law firm or chris's law firm help us in situations where we are trying to establish counsel and reinforce. we get over a thousand cases a year. from that first request we are usually able to take it down to about half. many of them who are writing to us are not claiming to be innocent. they are probably claiming that their prison conditions are inadequate and they are probably right. they might be claiming that they haven't received their medication, they are probably right. they are probably -- they often complaining that they were overcharged and over sentence. they probably right. we refer them as much as we can to those that might be able to help them. from then we begin the triage process to see if there is any kind of assistance once we investigate and if we are able to litigate it. >> thank you. next i would like to ask jim, poor people who are accused of a crime have a right to a public defender but most of the cases are in civil court, child custody, workers right, compensation for catastrophic injuries
long been a wide gap between restrictive laws and the reality of immigration. it is a gap that reflects the economic and social fact that there are millions of americans are millions of americans from mexico, central america, and elsewhere who wish to work together and engage in peaceful, voluntary exchange but are not legally allowed to do so. that inconsistency has produced a lot of the problems associated with legal immigration. many serious problems and some imagined. the prospects of reform have also stimulated the debate about the economic and cultural issues surrounding immigration, its impact and it is a debate that cuts across party lines and is one that has generated a lot of passion. how would it possible legalization of millions of on authorized immigrants and the creation of a guest worker program affect wages and jobs? what is the evidence say about the extent to which immigrants are assimilating into american culture in recent decades. are immigrants and that train or are they net contributors for the welfare state and today mainly come here to work or to get state benefi
before changing any of their voting laws. thankfully, chief justice john roberts, old blue eyes, knows that the south doesn't need to be baby sat anymore saying, quote, nearly 50 years later things have changed dramatically. yes, for some reason since the voting rights act was passedded, things have changed dramatically. therefore, we can get rid of it now. it's just like those outdated labor law that prohibit children from threading bobbins on a loom. a kid hasn't been suckd into one of those machines in year. let's stop playing nanny here. i'll have more on this important decision later in the show with my guest professor peniel joseph. i hear he's black. nation, i don't pay attention to south america any more than i care about east america or west america or upsidedown america. but even i cannot help but notice that brazil is going through a major political upheaval or as they call it futbol. jim? >> nearly a million people spilled into the streets in major cities across the country in the biggest protest brazil has seen in decades. protestors went head to head with riot police and
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